Bubz27
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Nice message from him on IG. Best of luck and maybe we'll see him back one day.
That's actually a good point. Everyone is assuming he left because he thinks he's too good for the reserves, but maybe he knows his own ability and wasn't confident about breaking into the first team.Good luck to him. Was never going to make it here, so only natural he found a new club.
I feel like he might have been poorly advised to turn us down to just go to Boavista via Lille on loan? I mean, good luck to him of course and no doubt he'll get game time in two decent, competitive leagues to realise his potential but can't see why he couldn't have followed a similar path of going on loan etc. at Utd. Perhaps he likes the Pogba route and, like I say, best of luck to the kid.
Hard to argue with any of that, fair points!He tried to follow that path here in both 2019 and 2020, but wasn't allowed to by the club. A loan from United would have been more risky than a loan from Lille to Boavista, because Boavista have incentives to develop Gomes as a player because of their connection to Lille, instead of solely focusing on what Gomes can do for them. After a finished loan he'd face the challenge of breaking into the Manchester United first team vs the Lille first team.
I think his decision makes perfect sense, especially considering he has barely gotten to play football at any level for the last 18 months or so here.
You could easily replace boavista with any other club.Why would Boavista, who are being purchased by Lille, want to develop our players when they have Lille players of their own to develop?
Gerard Lopez is looking to build a football empire similar to Red Bull. They won’t be developing other clubs players for no gain.
Would have struggled to break into our first team , hopefully he will get plenty of sharts at Lille.
Didn't realise Lineker was his idol.Would have struggled to break into our first team , hopefully he will get plenty of sharts at Lille.
I arsed that up.What a shitty comment
Why would we buy a player that fails for a lesser club?If he does succeed at Lille I hope we buy him back.
If there was any doubt that Gomes had terrible advisors in his camp then it’s there to see in this joke of a deal to Lille where he immediately is sent out on loan to a small Portuguese club. Why not take the contract with United and do the same thing?
Could have stayed here and been on massive money within a couple of years if thats what he’s worried about. Look at Rashford. Anyway best of luck to the kid.i didnt mind the fact that he chose to leave to progress etc
but when i read he was offered 30k a week and his camp felt that was short of what he wanted!!
seriously is 30k a week not enough now???? if youre good enough here you get better contracts as you progress... sorry Gomes you need to think about whose advising you, i can bet that they made a bit from your move too.
yepCould have stayed here and been on massive money within a couple of years if thats what he’s worried about. Look at Rashford. Anyway best of luck to the kid.
What do you think is more likely? That he left for money or he left to get games? Because I highly doubt he thought he'd make more money elsewhere, and it's quite obvious he'll have taken a significantly lower wage at the club he did end up joining.i didnt mind the fact that he chose to leave to progress etc
but when i read he was offered 30k a week and his camp felt that was short of what he wanted!!
seriously is 30k a week not enough now???? if youre good enough here you get better contracts as you progress... sorry Gomes you need to think about whose advising you, i can bet that they made a bit from your move too.
Did you not read my post? I said succeed.Why would we buy a player that fails for a lesser club?
Sorry I got that messed up, thought it said "doesnt" succed my bad.Did you not read my post? I said succeed.
i didnt mind the fact that he chose to leave to progress etc
but when i read he was offered 30k a week and his camp felt that was short of what he wanted!!
seriously is 30k a week not enough now???? if youre good enough here you get better contracts as you progress... sorry Gomes you need to think about whose advising you, i can bet that they made a bit from your move too.
If there was any doubt that Gomes had terrible advisors in his camp then it’s there to see in this joke of a deal to Lille where he immediately is sent out on loan to a small Portuguese club. Why not take the contract with United and do the same thing?
Getting a bit tired of everyone feeling like taking the piss out of Gomes in every other thread about transfers, Chong and so on. And I don't even particularly rate Gomes that highly.
He's actually taken a quite wise move. Especially if his physicality would be a challenge in the most physical league in the world. Not to mention all those he'd have to beat out for a chance to start with us in the coming years.
If he went on loan in the Championship he'd probably get knocked about even more. (Plus he was denied a loan move to a PL club this January.)
Owners of Lille also owns Boavista, they are starting something new there, similar to how Red Bull Salzburg and Red Bull Leipzig is run. So Boavista has an incentive to develop him for Lille.
After all those rainy years in Manchester he gets to chill for a year in sunny Portgual while getting gametime probably every week.
If he does things well he goes back to Lille probably after a year to feature in their team where he gets to play European football since Lille tends to finish top4 every year. A great showcase window for him.
He turns 20 at the end of this month. Even if he does a year on loan, and stays with Lille for 2 or 3 years later he'll still only be 23-24 when he's ready to move on to a bigger team in Europe.
For him specifically all things considered, this seems like a great move.
If he wanted more game time we could have loaned him out ourselves? Even used him as a add on loan to any transfer proposal?What do you think is more likely? That he left for money or he left to get games? Because I highly doubt he thought he'd make more money elsewhere, and it's quite obvious he'll have taken a significantly lower wage at the club he did end up joining.
Look at it from his point of view. Do you think that he would feel that we've been the best possible place for him to develop over the last two seasons, or would he have been better off somewhere else where he was playing more often? Is he willing to risk that changing in the future or should he take matters into his own hands and leave?If he wanted more game time we could have loaned him out ourselves? Even used him as a add on loan to any transfer proposal?
Forget saying it to him, they’ve been saying it publicly. Both Ole and Butt have said he’s not ready because he’s too small.Look at it from his point of view. Do you think that he would feel that we've been the best possible place for him to develop over the last two seasons, or would he have been better off somewhere else where he was playing more often? Is he willing to risk that changing in the future or should he take matters into his own hands and leave?
There's always been big question marks over whether he can make it in England with his size, and I'm sure the coaches themselves have said that to him. So would it be surprising if he's taken that on board and decided he'd be better off, for the long term good of his career, to go overseas?
Thanks for posting. Looks like he is given a lot of freedom to roam and even bring the ball up, reminds me of him in our youth teams. Hope he does well this season. May have to catch a game, Boavista just bought Reggie Cannon, a pretty solid American prospect too.