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Angel Gomes - Will he stay or will he go? | Contract Expired 30th June and he's left the club
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Jeez! There are tons of footballers who go to church and probably ask for healing.
Who actually cares that he went to some supposed healer?
I don't think anyone really cares, they're just laughing at him for doing something they deem to be dumb.
Fair enough, I just thought for him to come out with that statement someone had a particular problem with it.
Everyone who felt the need to mention it obviously.
I wouldn't worry too much about him maturing into a good footballer but I am not so sure he will sign a new contract anymore.
Listening to the commentary, the most remarkable thing is that at 18, Lionel Messi’s buyout clause was £101m. Just came from the Bellingham thread where many are debating the wisdom of spending £30m on him. In 2020. Messi at 18 years old for £101m would have been a great signing! Although you never know what happens in a different environment.
Yeah, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Can't say I'd ever have done that when I was 16...
Doubt we’d have seen a young Roy Keane do the same. It’s just obvious when certain players aren’t the sharpest tools in the box.
He’s also very passive on the field which doesn’t bode well for him here.
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I don’t see what’s bizarre in saying I like his talent as a footballer but he’s passive and a bit of a wet leaf personality wise and on the pitch. Needs to do more before we ever rate him.
Martials dribbling and all round play encompasses a lot of power if u ask me.
Physically he’s a beast. Comparing him to Zlatan and Lukaku makes zero sense since they are a different weight class. Rooney I’d argue wasn’t much stronger if any at all in reality. Apart from putting himself about a bit more he never could drive into the box like Martial does.
Martial has a more dynamic game much like the Brazilian Ronaldo he’s a physical in his own right. Defenders think he’s a nightmare to knock off the ball because he is.
Yes but remember that that's not exactly because Barca valued him at £101m. That's very much just in the La Liga tradition of buyout clauses designed to be impossible to pay, for players who the club will not sell under any circumstances. Long before the Neymar/Mbappe era when any fee seems like it might feasibly be paid one day. At that point the world record transfer fee was still £46.6m for Zidane, the best player in the world at the absolute peak of his powers.
Where does one even start with this post?
The British record at the time was £30m for Shevchenko to Chelsea. Three years later we sold the best player in the world for £80m. There's no way anyone would have paid £101m for an 18 year old in 2006, nor would he have left Barca anyway.
yea he was probably out beating people up for their lunch money instead. What a stupid comparison.Seems confident that it'll be done.
Young Roy Keane was so tough he beats his parents for asking him to do anything. Young Roy Keane was so mentally tough he did what he liked whenever he wanted. Roy Keane was just another united player, did his time and moved on. Stop making a Zeus-like figure of him. Maybe, just maybe people who aren't that tough themselves are the ones making a hero of Roy Keane just to bring down some lad. These players look larger than life when they are out of the game. Tone down the player worship please.
Young Roy Keane came to England late and only got there after giving it his all in Ireland to make a disappearing pro career happen.
So yes, young Keane was mentally tough.
Edit looking it up he was playing semi pro and only got to experience pro training through an FAI scheme and ended up playing two games every weekend for reserves and first team while taking up manuel labour work for some income.
Tough as nails.
I like that from Ole, no fecking about anymore a straight up take it or leave it. We’ve offered you a good deal now either sign or move on.
At the end the commentator calls it "a controversial sending off". Might have been controversial now that he didn't go off for the first one. That Terry challenge would have been a penalty as well today.
Excellent statement. He's a kid, a talented one, but Man Utd's Man Utd, if he doesn't want to be there, bye.
I have Always been pro-Ole, but if he manages to get every single player we want to keep, to sign a new contract - he will have performed a miracle after the mood of the club when Jose was here.
I think there’s more chatter and conflicting opinions on Angel Gomes than most of our players and I think to myself, why? He’s not done anything to deserve such fervour for a first team spot or not done so little as to be written off. He’s a good prospect in our youth academy that may or may not make it here, like the rest of them. He’ll either sign and be given chances if he’s good enough, sign and not be given chances if he’s not or he’ll leave. If he does leave and goes on to succeed elsewhere, it’ll be because the conditions at his new club were perfect for that development. He could also leave and not play a competitive game in the top flight again.
there’s just so much worry in here about something that has so many variables and cogs. We saw with Rashford that sometimes it’s just about luck to get a chance, then taking it. I don’t remember such outcry for him to get a first team run out before he burst on to the scene and you could say he’s arguably our best player and what with all that he has done off the field recently, is becoming the face of the club.
there’s just so much worry in here about something that has so many variables and cogs. We saw with Rashford that sometimes it’s just about luck to get a chance, then taking it. I don’t remember such outcry for him to get a first team run out before he burst on to the scene and you could say he’s arguably our best player and what with all that he has done off the field recently, is becoming the face of the club.
Excellent post.
I think Angel is an extremely talented player, skill wise one of the best in the club I would say. But apart from one or two flashes in a game, he has not set the world alight. Hopefully he will sign a new contract, possibly go on loan next season, then come back as a more seasoned professional. I think in the right team (for him) he could be world class, but time will tell, I still want him at OT though.
I think that's Solskjaer saying "This is the last offer lad, that's all you're getting so off you pop if you reject it"
If he signs i hope thats the case - not sure where would be best for him but possibly abroad?
Im not sure he would get enough time in the PL to make a loan worthwhile
Im not convinced the championship would be right as its a pretty physical league
Perhaps somewhere like the dutch league would be good - he can get by easily enough with english over there and would probably get games
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Great statement from Ole, no mucking about.
Angel needs to consider a few things. One is that there is no certainty. Even if another premiership club come in for him, there is no certainty. He's been at United since he was a boy. Angel should be working big time in the gym. You don't have to go nuts, but his size/height has to be removed from any equation. He has to be strong. He's still young. Will be 20 soon, but look at other top United players. Not everyone was in the team at 20. Many were not. It's up to Angel to show his quality and be good enough. He owes it to himself to prove he is good enough. I think he'd regret it otherwise. Even if you see no path in front of you, United will give you an opportunity. Look at Harrop. No one speaks about him but the game he played, he looked quality and scored. But he left and maybe it worked out for him but most people have forgotten him. Angel should be patient and trust United's advice. If United give you a contract, it's because they like your ability but you have to work for it. Even someone like Lingard, who has had issues - the club were patient. Rightly or wrongly. As long as Oles in charge, I don't think Angel should worry about being forgotten about.
Love that statement from Ole. It’s dragged on for too long now and if he still does not want to sign then goodbye.
Great statement. Sign it or toodle-pip. You're not Messi.
Hype. He's been the one in the youth team for 2 or 3 years now, maybe longer, that people have been expecting to make it.
And at this point a lot of people are either desperate for him to succeed to the point they want him to start, or annoyed that he hasn't become a first team player yet. Obviously those are the two extreme ends of the scale and both are probably in the wrong but that's how it is.
As for ole's statement. Quite clear and fair enough. I think the club want him to sign but aren't going to bend over. He's featured loads in our social media. I think he'll feature this season if he signs but if he doesn't then so be it.
Probably seen enough in training to suggest he will not be getting first team football guaranteed.
Even if he goes for a free, he has a few options.
1. Lower league team will less wages and regular football
2. A mid table team e.g. Everton - prob get less money and similar game time to Manutd
3. A big team - more money and less game time.
Agreed.
He surely won't get more money or status of club anywhere else, but he might get to play most weeks.
It's a tough choice for the lad, as he's really not that close to becoming much of a regular, so he needs to massively back himself to make it here.
But if he goes elsewhere it's very easy to begin the road down.
It's a tough choice for the lad, as he's really not that close to becoming much of a regular, so he needs to massively back himself to make it here.
But if he goes elsewhere it's very easy to begin the road down.
Guy is only 19, unless he shows world beating moves and is the next Messi incarnate, he should just sign and get working for a place in the team like any other young'un. Rashford got fortunate in his run in the squad when Martial got injured, but it was then on him to prove he deserved to be there and did just that. Ole has and will give him chances, so its all up to him to deliver.
Important thing is that it looks like he about to sign.
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Loved it. To the point.
We want you to stay we’ve offered you a deal if you don’t like it ok and good luck. Perfect!
I think he’s going to be a late bloomer but he’s technically outstanding. I’ll be sad to see him go if he does but I don’t see where he’d start in the PL.
Never seen whats the hype is about, but I dont watch many U21/U18 matches. How an 18 year can put such demands after showing nothing at all at top level is beyond me.
Young footballers today is not the same as it was. To much hype about them and it goes to their head. He is a young lad just gotten a contract offer from Man United! He should be over the moon.
Young footballers today is not the same as it was. To much hype about them and it goes to their head. He is a young lad just gotten a contract offer from Man United! He should be over the moon.
It would not surprise me at all if he is told by the club to hang it out til the end of June as that means more media coverage 'Will he stay , Will he go' scenario.
I have seen nothing but him saying he loves the club and if he is being offered 30k a week for really just excelling in the youth levels it is a no brainer in my eyes.
I have seen nothing but him saying he loves the club and if he is being offered 30k a week for really just excelling in the youth levels it is a no brainer in my eyes.