11 out of 53 pens saved, excluding the 11 from today count too?
Still a shocking rate though.
It is actually 11/64. I thought it might mean what you said also, but it is actually 11 saved and 53 conceded.
11-53/8-11 | De Gea and Henderson penalty saving record going into shootout
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It is actually 11/64. I thought it might mean what you said also, but it is actually 11 saved and 53 conceded.
Do people forget the Kepa incident? That was about switching the keeper for penalties.
It isnt much different to hooking a player 2 minutes from the end to stick on a good penalty taker. Cillessen didn't seem to give a shit about the Krul thing either and started the next game.
It would be just another tactical decision. De Gea just looks defeated before a penalty is even taken at this point, it is so bizarre given what an incredible shot-stopper he is.
Blame it on the Glazers. Ole would have won if he had Haaland, Grealish, Sancho, De Bruyne, Rio, Buffon, Law, Best and Vidic in his prime. You can't really expect him to beat Villareal without them
I thought this. When I saw Telles and Mata coming on to join Bruno, Rashford and Cavsni I was really confident we could score all of ours and De Gea would save at least 1 in the regulation 5. I just cant believe that a Man Utd keeper couldnt save 1 of 11 consecutive penalties.
Oh Dave...
He looked so timid, scared almost. Like the kid in school who’s thrown into goal and all the bigger kids blast shots at him.
Oh Dave...
You genuinely have people here defending this crap.
Notes were wrong for the 1st, 2nd and 5th kicks. He probably decided not to follow the script anymore from this point.
Unless the manager strictly tells the keeper to follow those instructions, with the right training the keeper can understand where the taker is aming by the arm used to balance and by his body position.
Look at what it says. The first taker went centrally and de gea was given notes that he went centrally. Can you read?
That would mean that up to and including the 1st sudden death penalty, the notes were 50% correct...
1 = not correct
2 = not correct
3 = correct
4 = correct
5 = not correct
6 = correct
Look at what it says. The first sudden death (so 6th penalty) went centrally. Can you read?
De Gea clearly can't do this though. His best hope was follow the notes
That's the best thing to do usually, because if the penalty is taken with enough power, you have to antecipate the shot, otherwise you don't have enough time to reach the ball.
The notes were not correct anyway so why blame him ?
The whole thing was a shambles from start to finish.
De Gea must be amongst the worst in the world for saving penalties. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Well they're never going to be correct for every penalty, players don't always go the same way... but they would've been based on stats and when you're as shite at reading pens as De Gea is the best hope we had was if he followed them.
De Gea is statistically one of the worst penalty savers you'll find across Eurpoe. His record is so woeful, it's insane for a top keeper.
Henderson should have surely been brought on, doesn't matter if De Gea played the full game. Penalties is a complete mental game. Even just sending on Henderson sends a message of "this guy is a PK specialist" and puts the added pressure on the Villareal players.
De Gea just wilted as the shootout went on, and I knew he'd miss his own kick. Let's face it, Rulli was pretty terrible for Villareal too. Should have saved Bruno's and Shaw's pens. But unfortunately, we had a GK with one of the worst save stats you'll find between the posts, with Henderson sitting on the bench.
Bizzare.
Henderson should have surely been brought on, doesn't matter if De Gea played the full game. Penalties is a complete mental game. Even just sending on Henderson sends a message of "this guy is a PK specialist" and puts the added pressure on the Villareal players.
De Gea just wilted as the shootout went on, and I knew he'd miss his own kick. Let's face it, Rulli was pretty terrible for Villareal too. Should have saved Bruno's and Shaw's pens. But unfortunately, we had a GK with one of the worst save stats you'll find between the posts, with Henderson sitting on the bench.
Bizzare.
Honestly, apart from DDG & Shaw I thought our penalty takers were on point and you can see they prepared it very well to be able to placed them near perfection. You can see why he brought on Mata, Telles, Fred, Axel and actually subbed off Pogba for the sake of penalty. Except, I don’t think DDG did any preparation there, he was so bad as he was so poor to react.
I can't remember the 5th, but for the first and second kicks, Dave had already fallen over when the takers were halfway through the run up. Can't blame the notes for them seeing that and slotting it in the other side.
Ist and 2nd I thought were terrible penalties, weak and not in the corner, but I think they just rolled them into the negative space after DDG sold himself early.
Still don't know if I'm more annoyed at the sub not being made or at De Gea for being entirely useless at pens
Just like LVG for the Netherlands in the world cup?
The thing is that we have acquired a lot of strong penalty takers, so I've been quite bullish on our prospects if we find ourselves in shootouts. Bruno, Rashford, Cavani, Telles, Mata and Pogba have all been first choice penalty takers at clubs for certain periods. Our depth is actually really good.
Doesn't make it sense as when they are 50% wrong then he could have saved one by not following the notes.
This trying to blame the keeper or Ole for not switching keepers in penalties is hindsight at its worst.
De Gea played because he is a much better keeper than Henderson.
We should have won the game before pens Ole did make mistakes but even so too many of our big players did not perform on the night.
Ole didn't tell Bruno to play crap that was on Bruno. He didn't tell Shaw to forget what he was doing at set pieces that is on Shaw.
We played a poor game and the players have to take their share of the blame for it but using hindsight to say we should have done this or that is pathetic
You still need to prepare them. Ronaldo missed his in the final and so others who are good with their penalty. The fact that James, Axel, Lindelof and Fred also took them cleanly last night because those takers except DDG prepared it.
How people can defend this on Ole is crazy. Every single United fans know De Gea. He is not the most confident keeper and also has an insanly poor pentality record.
How Ole can get this so fully wrong shows he is not good enough for us. LVG who was not good enough would have made the change. Mourinho would have.
Moyes probably would have failed like Ole. Although when we lost that league cup semi final on pens De Gea had a better record on pens than he have recently.
How Ole can get this so fully wrong shows he is not good enough for us. LVG who was not good enough would have made the change. Mourinho would have.
Moyes probably would have failed like Ole. Although when we lost that league cup semi final on pens De Gea had a better record on pens than he have recently.
Really good article:
Indeed and he didn't have 5 subs then. I prefer DdG over Hendo but it's clear DdG is not great at pens.
Forget upsetting people and make the decision that wins us the trophy.
He only needed to save 1!
PhotoshoppedOh Dave...
Being allowed more substitutes now swapping a keeper for a shoot-out shouldn''t even be that unusual. We just didn't take advantage of it.
The whole thing was a shambles. I sat there confused how we could be kicking second and at the end with their fans, someone has made a stupid decision if that happens.
The whole thing was a shambles. I sat there confused how we could be kicking second and at the end with their fans, someone has made a stupid decision if that happens.
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Interesting article but very frustrating.
The notes may well have been 100% correct. It's hard to know when your keeper falls over to the side while the taker is still putting the ball on the spot.
Pogba has missed a lot of penalties for us so this is incorrect.
The Villareal keeper was crap too. Neither of them propelled themselves off their lines like Henderson does. It's a key reason there were 21 pens.
Their keeper at least got his hand to a few.