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    mitchmouse said:
    but doesn't that remind you of Moyes and Fulham and 476 crosees?
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    Crossing isn't bad in itself. City score heaps from crosses. It's not like we were just blindly pumping it in from bad areas.

    We consistently got into good positions and then failed to pick anyone out. AWB and James the main culprits but nearly everyone had a couple of bad ones. One of those days.
     
    Adam-Utd said:
    I'm not saying the sub was wrong, but are you really surprised he gave him 10/15 minutes more to pick up his performance? it's a pretty normal move. Greenwood still got 30 minutes not like he gave him 5.
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    I know it’s normal, I want more from our manager. He has had a habit of waiting much longer than 60 though , I don’t know, maybe I just feel it’s such an obvious move that I’m bitching more than I should. Very disappointed now!
     
    momo83 said:
    I can see this is a sensitive issue for you. “Most annoying thing” is not literal and just a way of taking...
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    :lol:

    Alright buttercup!

    Don't think I'm the sensitive one in this exchange but you do you!
     
    SteveW said:
    Crossing isn't bad in itself. City score heaps from crosses. It's not like we were just blindly pumping it in from bad areas.

    We consistently got into good positions and then failed to pick anyone out. AWB and James the main culprits but nearly everyone had a couple of bad ones. One of those days.
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    what I meant twas sometimes players should havd passed rather than shot. Our decision-making is very poor by most of the team but partiocularly today rashford
     
    Jesus, some people going in big time on Ole - undeservedly in my opinion. Today wasn't great but it also wasn't the worst. We created some chances albeit not many and Everton did feck all - sometimes it goes like that. If you look at our bench I don't think Ole had many options - the subs he made did work - with Mata I think he was trying to find a killer pass and there were 5 minutes to go - why not? If people jump on Ole for everything that doesn't quite come off then he'll never succeed. Honestly don't understand the agenda against him. What's the alternative? Yet another manager with another set of ideas half way through a season who'll simply say "I need a couple of transfer windows"? I can see Ole's process and I think he'll get there. It's obvious that we need a few players as Ole has said himself - let's judge him after he's had a chance to execute those plans. OLE IN!!!
     
    El Zoido said:
    How many times can I complain about us making the wrong decision in and around the box? I want to break something.
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    Yeah know how you feel,yet again we have failed to capitalise on a Chelsea home defeat the previous day.

    I just knew big Dunc would have them fired up and organised,how I wish that Silva was still in charge.

    We created chances but not enough clear cut ones and Greenwood aside we aren't clinical enough in the final third when it matters.

    I agree that VAR should probably have overturned their goal for a push on De Gea,however I was disappointed we didn't contest it more. I hate doing this but compare our reaction to Liverpool's against Palace and it speaks volumes.
     
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    mitchmouse said:
    what I meant twas sometimes players should havd passed rather than shot. Our decision-making is very poor by most of the team but partiocularly today rashford
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    Yep, we got into good positions in the final third with ease all game. But yeah lots of bad final decisions and snatched shots. Should have battered them.
     
    NK86 said:
    We need a more progressive coach who knows how to get the players to play more intricate football. If Ole has to stay, we need to provide him with a better assistant. Phelan, Carrick and McKenna are just not good enough it seems.

    The worst part is it was so predictable.
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    Yeah there is no doubt that Ole desperately needs some decent coaching ability around him. I fear that he isn't willing to ditch Carrick, Phelan & Mckenna even though it's the right thing to do.
     
    How many more points have we gotta drop against the so called lesser teams for the penny to drop with Ole and signing a creative midfielder in January.

    I do not want to hear him say Pogba will be like a new signing and we don't need to buy one in the next window.
     
    Berbaclass said:
    That’s just silly. Anyone can see that the touch De Gea got to it made it very awkward for Lindelof and there wasn’t anything he could have done. I don’t blame him at all. De Gea should be more authoritative and that’s the goal stopped.
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    To be honest I've only seen it twice so I could well be in the wrong here, but my initial impression is that he should be doing better. I'll give it a watch back later and look out for the touch.
     
    It would be good to go on a bit of a winning streak but it's not gonna be the season for it I am afraid. There is always going to be lesser team to come and spoil our form, but that's ok as long as we can see positive signs and we do see them.
     
    Toblerone92 said:
    Seriously? What an asinine thing to post. The state of some of our fan base is beyond me, go support another club if you're going to bring such abysmal attitudes to this forum.
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    I wish I could! But it’s frowned upon amongst football fans. I’m just being honest.
     
    This was a must win game, I actually thought it was an away fixture initially which places more emphasis on the need for the win. One trend that we are seeing under Ole which isn't good is that when there's an opportunity present, he and the team seem to always fall short. We would have been 2 points off the top four with Chelsea in abysmal form and we have thrown away the opportunity.

    I'm not going to criticize Ole extensively but if we continue to have good results against the top five and bad performances consistently against the rest of the league are we not in a worse state compared to LVG considering he also won a domestic in his last season ? That to me represents backwards movement, it's better to be a flat track bully in this league than a Wolves, because that's why Lampard has endured terrible form but his Chelsea team have leverage in the table. It's a game of probability because the league is not determined by the merit of an opponents teams strengths its a point tallying system.
     
    VJ1762 said:
    I don't know about that. In recent years, we just haven''t seized the opportunity when it is provided to us. We always crumble. I would say a 1-1 or 2-2 draw is more likely. Would love to be proven wrong of course.
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    Turned out you're right and I'm wrong.

    We're really unlucky with the goal conceded, it was a fault on DDG imo but it's the PL.

    Anyway the team did fight and if we're a bit more lucky and clinical we'd have won. We must do better in these matches nonetheless, otherwise our hope for CL football next year will be through the Europa League only.
     
    Berbaclass said:
    That’s just silly. Anyone can see that the touch De Gea got to it made it very awkward for Lindelof and there wasn’t anything he could have done. I don’t blame him at all. De Gea should be more authoritative and that’s the goal stopped.
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    Disagree, DdG didn't go gung ho and shrunk away and as for Lindelof, never face the goal!!, always face away.
     
    reddevil80 said:
    Disagree, DdG didn't go gung ho and shrunk away and as for Lindelof, never face the goal!!, always face away.
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    Easy to say, but a lot of the time you have to face the goal because the player you were marking was fruther out and then the ball comes in and you are closest to it but you have to turn around. It's a bit unlucky, more than bit I should say. In almost every other league it would've been a foul on keeper but in PL the standard is a bit different. Players are allowed to attack the ball and even challange the keeper as long as he is not obstructed deliberatly by the opinion of the ref. I have still seen a lot of the time when such fouls were given, but if it was on the other side and we scored I'd say fair play so I can't really say we were robbed, but it wasn't all down to our players either.

    We should be scoring more than one goal against Everton home, that's the root cause of the problem for me.
     
    OleGunnar20 said:
    To be honest I've only seen it twice so I could well be in the wrong here, but my initial impression is that he should be doing better. I'll give it a watch back later and look out for the touch.
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    Calvert - Lewin had his arm directly across De Gea's face/neck area, and when De Gea saw the arm coming, he turned his head away, as 99% of people would have done, this resulted in him mistiming the punch. I cannot believe that VAR could allow it really, if that happened in the middle of the pitch, the referee would immediately give a free kick. De Gea definitely got a touch on the ball, so it made it difficult for Lindelof.
     
    croadyman said:
    Yeah there is no doubt that Ole desperately needs some decent coaching ability around him. I fear that he isn't willing to ditch Carrick, Phelan & Mckenna even though it's the right thing to do.
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    I assume you watch every training session, and can instantly see what the coaching staff are doing wrong to make that statement.
     
    croadyman said:
    How many more points have we gotta drop against the so called lesser teams for the penny to drop with Ole and signing a creative midfielder in January.

    I do not want to hear him say Pogba will be like a new signing and we don't need to buy one in the next window.
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    Another assumption made that Ole has not signed the creative player we need because he didn't need one. He certainly was in touch with Ericsson in the summer, because Ole felt that the player wanted a move to Real, does that not strike you as knowing we needed more creativity? And how many creative players were on the list of players given by Ole to Ed in the summer, when we achieved just three. Only the people within the club really know what the Pogba situation is, he may well want out, but to be fair if Pogba came back into the team, as an attacking midfielder, and really put 100% effort in every game, then it would feel like a new signing, as he has not very often put in a full shift in 90 minutes.
     
    KekiZeki said:
    Easy to say, but a lot of the time you have to face the goal because the player you were marking was fruther out and then the ball comes in and you are closest to it but you have to turn around. It's a bit unlucky, more than bit I should say. In almost every other league it would've been a foul on keeper but in PL the standard is a bit different. Players are allowed to attack the ball and even challange the keeper as long as he is not obstructed deliberatly by the opinion of the ref. I have still seen a lot of the time when such fouls were given, but if it was on the other side and we scored I'd say fair play so I can't really say we were robbed, but it wasn't all down to our players either.

    We should be scoring more than one goal against Everton home, that's the root cause of the problem for me.
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    Nah, how can you see who or what is coming in with your back to the game? Had Lindelof been on the post, he would have been dacing the right way plus the ball would never have gone in off him. You should have your back to the goal so you can attack the ball; facing the goal can lead to unlucky/stupid own goals.

    Totally agree on the need to score more though mate.
     
    reddevil80 said:
    Nah, how can you see who or what is coming in with your back to the game? Had Lindelof been on the post, he would have been dacing the right way plus the ball would never have gone in off him. You should have your back to the goal so you can attack the ball; facing the goal can lead to unlucky/stupid own goals.

    Totally agree on the need to score more though mate.
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    It's keeper's decision to have men on the post or not, not defender's. If he's at the post he'll be slow to come out and might ruin the offside trap as well as be far from the ball if it goes in the box. 3 players clashing distracted him a bit, he didn't expect the ball to come through there, it happened really fast.
     
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