Manchester United 1:1 Everton

mav_9me · Dec 15, 2019

#07 said:
It's hard to understand this United team. They could defend for an entire half against City. However, as soon as Everton started putting the pressure on we started hacking at clearances and being generally garbage in defence. The corner they scored from comes from Shaw opting to gift possession to them rather than clear his lines, and he wasn't the only one who messed up a clearance in that 10-15 minute period of Everton pressure.

This is why I don't accept people saying we are better when teams come at us. Sheffield United came at us and we looked cak. Same with Villa and now Everton.

What we are is a team with a small time mentality. Game raisers against the best: Like a lower league side trying to get a giant killing. As soon as the kudos of a big scalp vanished our levels plummet. Poor.

PS) Lindelof and Maguire's uninspired use of the ball hurts us so much in the build up

Fair point.

Random Task · Dec 15, 2019

Everton's goal makes a

NinjaZombie said:
It can be argued that we were going nowhere and Everton were building up to something in the lead up to that goal. I'm not going to agree outright that Ole's at fault but I don't fault anyone who thinks that.

Anyway, Lingard needs to come off. What does he contribute, other than losing the ball while he tries to pretend to be a number 10?

Lingard has been appalling. It's a travesty that why have to rely on him for such a pivotal role in the team.

It's arguably even more of a travesty that the only viable options to replace him are Mata and Periera.

redIndianDevil · Dec 15, 2019

Really have no idea why everyone's saying De Gea's weak. He wasn't, he was also jumping with his arm outstretched and fecking huge player pulled his outstretched hand. How can anyone be strong against that?

mitchmouse · Dec 15, 2019

even souness says its a foul... surprise tool ache lescott doesn't think so. normal contact my arse

Paul_Scholes18 · Dec 15, 2019

We are not going to do much in the league. Europe with more attacking less physical teams suit us better. When times comes we need to rest players in the league.

Josep Dowling · Dec 15, 2019

Gasolin said:
We missed chances from Rashford and James as well, those should get in.

The James and Rashford ones were half chances, both tight angles.

Hammondo · Dec 15, 2019

Never a foul.

Orestetes · Dec 15, 2019

Slevs said:
If that elbow to the face is not a foul then what is the point of VAR? Splitting 1mm offsides?

That and making Liverpool champions

Skåre Willoch · Dec 15, 2019

Get Williams on. Shaw offers nothing going forward, and Everton are building every attack from his side of the pitch.

tob · Dec 15, 2019

Adam-Utd said:
Bingo.

you see goals like that disallowed every week? I genuinely can’t see how it’s not a foul. If a goalkeeper gets touched in the 6 yard box it’s a foul99% of the time, let alone an arm in the face also.

Yes, I feel that we need to know why decisions goes one way or the other. We're just left in the unknown. We need transparency.

Slevs · Dec 15, 2019

Also, no idea why we persist with Lingard and Shaw.

Adam-Utd · Dec 15, 2019

Jesus when even Graham souness is defending us, you know it was definitely a foul

Jazz · Dec 15, 2019

Random Task said:
Greenwood at 10?

Can't be any worse than Lingard to be honest.

Put Martial at 10 and Greenwood up top. See if that works

Hugh Jass · Dec 15, 2019

Lingarrd would not get into any side in the PL. The last seven years since Ferguson retired should be called the Lingarrd years. How this guy are persevered is beyond me.

If we have to spend 80 million in January for a new 10, so be it. We are not getting top four with the 10s we have.

Sassy Colin · Dec 15, 2019

wtf is Lindelhof doing for the goal? That should have just ran past him harmlessly. But let's blame it all on DeGea.

Even Sourness is convinced DeGea was fouled, anyway.

mav_9me · Dec 15, 2019

ash_86 said:
If DDG holds his face the goal is getting ruled out. Such basic school boy error.

So true.

Mike Smalling · Dec 15, 2019

Paul_Scholes18 said:
His passing is much better than Maguires. Both of them have defended poorly though. We miss Smalling a lot.

It might be better than Maguires, but he has still given the ball away a lot so far. His fumbling with the ball also gave City a major chance last week.

DoomSlayer · Dec 15, 2019

The twats at Sky were grinning, all 3 are loving that we are losing this game.

FrankDrebin · Dec 15, 2019

Feel Maguire has been poor with his distribution from the back today.
A fair few long aimless balls.

Lindelof,once again makes me nervous.

Forevergiggs1 · Dec 15, 2019

Greenwood for Lingard and play Martial as a 10

always_hoping · Dec 15, 2019

Frustrating viewing that half. That Everton goal should not have stood but both DeGea and Lindelof so poor on it.

Need some leaders to stand up 2nd half unless more silly points against a poor side will be dropped.

Irrational. · Dec 15, 2019

FootyGirl88 said:
DDG was so weak for the goal

Agree. That 'attempt' at clearing the ball was feeble. He even turned his body away, he wasn't committed enough.

Vault Dweller · Dec 15, 2019

Feck off, that’s a foul every day of the week.

R'hllor · Dec 15, 2019

Love how people trying to force James chance, like it was a sitter. Guess its always to paddle with higher number.

Sassy Colin · Dec 15, 2019

Hugh Jass said:
Lingarrd would not get into any side in the PL. The last seven years since Ferguson retired should be called the Lingarrd years. How this guy are persevered is beyond me.

If we have to spend 80 million in January for a new 10, so be it. We are not getting top four with the 10s we have.

We have one already, Pogba.

FrankDrebin · Dec 15, 2019

We never conceded a goal with Smalling.

redIndianDevil · Dec 15, 2019

SadlerMUFC said:
Yes, it should have been a foul. With that being said, the hand hits at the same time he's punching. He took his eye off the ball. He has to go up with 2 hands and be braver. That was brutal and De Gea has to do a lot better...

he took his eye off because another player was jumping at him and fell on his arms.

mitchmouse · Dec 15, 2019

again I say what's the point of VAR if the guy watching it knows more about making birthday cakes than footall. did he work for factcheckUK?

Slevs · Dec 15, 2019

Judas said:
Is Martial playing?

Hopefully he turns up the second half, he's had a few sleepy first halves then looked better in the second so hopefully that happens again.

No one knows. He's either world class or a ghost, such a frustrating player.

Stadjer · Dec 15, 2019

Buster15 said:
27 today but some still call him young. Not progressed at all.

Regressed even... he did show some promise in the past. Now he is just a waste of space.

Random Task · Dec 15, 2019

charlenefan said:
Nah 442, like we did at Sheffield United when we were chasing that game

I dunno, we're dominating them in midfield, it would be a risk to make such a drastic change to the formation.

Then again, anything to removes Lingard from play would be an upgrade.

Deleted 112447 · Dec 15, 2019

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Far from ok. We were abysmal and lost every battle.

Disagree. Should have scored a couple with some decent chances. They are very lucky to be in front.

Organic Potatoes · Dec 15, 2019

1/2 MotM:

Fred
Martial
Duncan Ferguson’s suit coat.

Josep Dowling · Dec 15, 2019

2 man midfield said:
Sort of agree with Souness there. I’ve seen them given, but what is De Gea doing?

Sounness is right. If he had jumped to claim the ball with some conviction he would have got the foul. What was he trying to do? Turns sideways and half punches whilst not even looking at the ball. It was pathetic.

sparx99 · Dec 15, 2019

De Gea is weak on the corner but it’s obviously a foul just as it would be on any other player. The bias is maddening.

manunited1919 · Dec 15, 2019

Come on Ole, get Lingard out of there, everyone and their grandma can see that. Get Greenwood in, or Gomez, or Pereira, or Chong, or Phil Jones in there instead of Lingard.

Ramshock · Dec 15, 2019

Thats no fecking goal. Oh well the Ole out brigade are warming their voices up

Red Dreams · Dec 15, 2019

crazy that goal was allowed.

Vidyoyo · Dec 15, 2019

Didn't think that was a foul on De Gea to be honest.

Asger · Dec 15, 2019

Wha

NJM78 said:
It’s fine because if we lose the excuses for Ole and this team will flow once again.

What excuse? Everybody with brain know this squad is not better than this!

FA Premier League

Manchester United 1:1 Everton

Old Trafford

Closed

Full Member

WW Lynchpin

Full Member

loves to hate United.

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

likes to play with penises

Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

Just in case anyone missed it. I don't like Mount.

Shave Dass

Death or the gladioli!

Full Member

Full Member

New Member

Don't call me Shirley

Full Member

Score Prediction League Winner 2023/24

Full Member

Correctly predicted Italy to win Euro 2020

Full Member

Death or the gladioli!

Don't call me Shirley

Full Member

loves to hate United.

likes to play with penises

Full Member

WW Lynchpin

Deleted 112447

Guest

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

Full Member

The bad "V"

New Member

Man of the Match

Runners-up

Player Ratings

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Score Predictions

Detailed Results

Match Stats

Referee

Man Utd Lineup

Substitutes