Rashford considering his future...

He was reacting to one fan who said nothing of any abuse. It's all on the video.

Well let's be honest here mate you've no idea what was being said to him in the lead up to that video. It's irrelevant though fact is he reacted to something that was said to him whatever it may have been (I'm not defending his reaction) but that incident doesn't prove your ludicrous theory on his motivations for doing charity work.

He was not reacting to an online abuse. Online abuse anyone faces is being condemned. United fans certainly condemned any abuse certainly against United players and most football fans condemned any abuse online or not.

Checked over my post again just to be sure and yeah I never mentioned online abuse.

You are trying to cloud the whole issue of Rashford here.

And here was me thinking I was just highlighting nonsense and half baked theories.
 
I think we need to rein in the Rashford hate a little guys, it’s getting out of control. Yes. I’m a little worried about his form and not sure he’ll live up to his potential now, but he has been an important player for us and still can be, let’s not be too hasty.

Getting?

Think that ship sailed a while ago mate.
 
It does seem now that people expect entire career consistency and perfect trajectories. Break through as a talented youth player, establish yourself in the first team squad, impress off the bench, become a first XI player and then be ultra consistently thereafter until you decline and retire.

The truth is fans forget the poor seasons the class of 92 had. They forget the up and down nature of most professional footballers careers.

Rashford has been poor for a good 18 months now. There is no denying that. To suggest that means he’s just garbage now to be thrown onto the trash heap with all the other deadwood if foolish and shortsighted. The club cannot be both ruthless and a family. It cannot nurture young players and be unforgiving of their struggles at the same time.

Rashford may not ever reach his potential or even his previous best seasons. At some point we will need to decide to move on if he can’t recapture his form. However, I still think he deserves a full pre-season with a new boss to see if he can turn it around. A lot of his issues this year could be the surgery and lack of pre-season leaving him behind the curve on fitness.
 
For some reason I could see him going to Arsenal.

I doubt it. We are stacked on the wide positions. Saka and Martinelli will not be dislodged, ESR and Pepe are on the bench.

Rashford wont be able to play as a striker for us and we like to press and the front man needs to do this. Arteta is more inclined to move for Calvert Lewin or Tammy Abraham.

Rashford also had a shocking attitude, doesn't track back or work high up the pitch. He thinks he is so good on the ball that he doesn't need to work of it.

Ill be stunned if we put a bid in.
 
How many of these newbies are actually part of rashford pr team or maybe interns there ? :wenger:

With all due respect to your own and others’ venerable status, can you please not tar all of us ‘newbies’ with the same simplistic brush that one or two of the previous posters have wielded…

I am, for my sins, a newbie. I don’t ‘hate’ Marcus Rashford , nor am I on his team of publicists. What pisses me off about the guy is not his politics or his charitable work- I for one have no knowledge as to his underlying motivations.

However, I do think that the issue of ‘ poor form’ should not be lumped in with his attitude, which shouts a lack of effort and engagement with the team. It’s the latter, not the former, which leads me to think that the club should part ways with him.
 
How many of these newbies are actually part of rashford pr team or maybe interns there ? :wenger:
Hey dont lump me to bunch of mad cultists who worship their god blindly and of course according them it is always others mistake that cause his shit performances other than their god. :lol:
 
It does seem now that people expect entire career consistency and perfect trajectories. Break through as a talented youth player, establish yourself in the first team squad, impress off the bench, become a first XI player and then be ultra consistently thereafter until you decline and retire.

The truth is fans forget the poor seasons the class of 92 had. They forget the up and down nature of most professional footballers careers.

Rashford has been poor for a good 18 months now. There is no denying that. To suggest that means he’s just garbage now to be thrown onto the trash heap with all the other deadwood if foolish and shortsighted. The club cannot be both ruthless and a family. It cannot nurture young players and be unforgiving of their struggles at the same time.

Rashford may not ever reach his potential or even his previous best seasons. At some point we will need to decide to move on if he can’t recapture his form. However, I still think he deserves a full pre-season with a new boss to see if he can turn it around. A lot of his issues this year could be the surgery and lack of pre-season leaving him behind the curve on fitness.
The problem right here is that there's a bare minimum expectation of some effort even when the performance is lacking, but Rashford fails badly at that.

We literally can play him off the bench and he'll just stand around doing nothing. His attitude is appalling and he would have been binned off a long time ago if it weren't for his stupidly high wages.
 
I want to see him under a quality manager where the manager gets the best out of his players -

If at that point Rashford is struggling then fine; then he should go because he will be sticking out like a sore thumb in the midst of 10 fingers.

Right now I just see too much crap all over the place that I can't exactly spend my time complaining about each player when the club and management as a whole has been below average for nearly a decade now.

If Ten Hag or Pochettino come next year and starts building an actual team where the whole team have to do things in a certain way; then Rashford better do as has been said because otherwise he becomes a tactically useless player and he needs to leave.

During the last 18 months Ole was a pure individualised tactics manager whilst Rangnick is Gegenpressing with only 2 out 11 players pressing at all.
 
Honestly i've read some crap on here but this takes the cake. Thoroughly inappropriate and i really hope the mods see this.

It's weird isn't it? I don't know why the mods don't dislike posts rather than just handing likes to good ones.

It would scare people to make better posts.
 
It's weird isn't it? I don't know why the mods don't dislike posts rather than just handing likes to good ones.

It would scare people to make better posts.
To be fair, there is so much hateful crap written in the United forum these days it is probably hard for the mods to keep up. I think "warnings" are kind of like dislikes. But i forget how it works, it has been awhile since i was a newbie!
 
It's weird isn't it? I don't know why the mods don't dislike posts rather than just handing likes to good ones.

It would scare people to make better posts.
People are legitimately pissed off about a lot of things about the club, but if posts spills over into very personalised attacks on players or cross the line in other ways, please do report them. There are thousands of posts made every day, so the mods can't read all of them.
 
He’s nothing but a pretend to be do- gooder. It’s not about the children or making the world a better place, it’s about his profile, contract value and feeding into a messiah complex. The ugly truth is, Rashford does it all for self serving motives. It's not for the benefit of others, rather for the attention, adulation and kudos it brings to himself while getting to role play being a martyr and grievance-monger.

He is a character like that environmental activist Greta. Manipulated behind the scenes to be a political mouthpiece for SJWS to pull the heart strings for a lot of gullible people desperate for someone to worship as a saint. Rashford and his PR team saw an opportunity to raise his profile, use Man United to build is brand(because he wouldn't be doing this shit if he played for Wolves) and give him a David Beckham like status and an MBE for 3 days of work simply by exploiting the plight of poverty-stricken children to raise his own social media profile, and to attract lucrative sponsorship/endorsements deals for himself

These kind of narcissistic individuals often crave hero-worship and peer approval by promoting their own victimhood. Another way is to pass themselves off as 'virtuous' is by pretending to help others through promoting causes they know will bring them attention and virtue-signalling points they so desperately crave. In the case of rashford, it’s pretending to fill the bellies of hungry children when its really the tax payers funding it all. The fact is Marcus Rashford is nothing but an opportunist, using little kids for emotive value to garner sympathy and support to. I'd like to see how much money he has used out of his own pocket to support these causes instead of preaching and demanding others to do so.

There are people who tirelessly campaign for numerous worthy causes, fund raising for children in hospices, lobby local councillors and MP's, write letters, send e-mails to make changes to their area while working 9-5 jobs on minimum wage and are basically ignored. They don't post it all over social media for kudos

As for the guy saying I don't know Rashford so I'm making assumptions, I don't personally know Greenwood either, but I know he's a piece of shit and I'm not going to beat around the bush, because I'm tired of these egomaniacs at our club being protected to the point if you say something wrong about them or tell the truth, it's abuse.

This guy made Ole publicly grovel and apologise for daring to advise him to go easy on the things outside football. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. So you damn right I’m going to be making assumptions on his character and his so called love for the club while he's been down tooling on managers over the last 4-5 years. Last but not least we have him threatening a fan after they simply wanted an autograph with his kids out in the cold rain. This is not something I’m going to sit down and support. Any man/boy who threatens a father with violence, in front of their children is the lowest of the low in my book.

If this guy wasn't British, he would have been hounded out of the club like Martial. Martial was booed in his last appearance for us being going out on loan, all because he made it clear he wanted to leave. Rashford does even worse both on and off the pitch and instead gets flowers, love letters ,hugs and in depth documentary style psychoanalysis on why he's simply shit. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. When Rooney flirted with Man City, after he was dismayed with the direction the club was going in, he had people sent to his door to tell him what's what and questioning where his loyalties lie. Not that I condone it, but it's the different type of breed of fans who molly coddy and protect these players at all costs regardless of the lows they descend to, compared to the fans and manager in the past who held players accountable
Richard Littlejohn, is that you? A right wing bingo full house here with virtue-signalling, Greta, SJWs...
 
So he is now being linked with Arsenal.

They only way this could happen is if you are prepared to sell him cheap to move on and get him of the wage bill, akin to what we did with PEA allowing Barcelona to sign him on a free. Of course a free would be ridiculous, there would be a fee, but it cant be serious money.

One. Rashford isnt the striker we need. Two. we are stacked in the wide positions, ESR and Pepe cant crack the first team ahead of Saka and Martinelli, and Rashford wouldn't be dislodging Saka or Martinelli anytime soon. Three. Rashford has a real lack of work ethic when not in possession. Rashford could play across the front three despite not being a traditional striker, we would probably sign another classic centre forward just to cover all angles. A resurgent Rashford could then be valuable.

I cant see it happening though, because reading the comments section you guys seem to want to sell Rashford for the maximum amount, rather than on a discount. You want 60-80m rather than 35-40m. I think your board too wants to sell for maximum amount.

I think he could be Newcastle United type signing
 
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So he is now being linked with Arsenal.

They only way this could happen is if you are prepared to sell him cheap to move on and get him of the wage bill, akin to what we did with PEA allowing Barcelona to sign him on a free. Of course a free would be ridiculous, there would be a fee, but it cant be serious money.

One. Rashford isnt the striker we need. Two. we are stacked in the wide positions, ESR and Pepe cant crack the first team ahead of Saka and Martinelli, and Rashford wouldn't be dislodging Saka or Martinelli anytime soon. Three. Rashford has a real lack of work ethic when not in possession. Rashford could play across the front three despite not being a traditional striker, we would probably sign another classic centre forward just to cover all angles. A resurgent Rashford could then be valuable.

I cant see it happening though, because reading the comments section you guys seem to want to sell Rashford for the maximum amount, rather than on a discount. You want 60-80m rather than 35-40m. I think your board too wants to sell for maximum amount.

I think he could be Newcastle United type signing

Rashford is going no where, with all the work we've got in the transfer market this summer he is low priority.

He could easily get back to where he was when he was ok for us under someone like ETH anyway, and then much as his ability has always been less than his profile at the club, that is still worth alot to United.

Other than a select few Rashford will be the last player we'll sell this summer imo.
 
He’s nothing but a pretend to be do- gooder. It’s not about the children or making the world a better place, it’s about his profile, contract value and feeding into a messiah complex. The ugly truth is, Rashford does it all for self serving motives. It's not for the benefit of others, rather for the attention, adulation and kudos it brings to himself while getting to role play being a martyr and grievance-monger.

He is a character like that environmental activist Greta. Manipulated behind the scenes to be a political mouthpiece for SJWS to pull the heart strings for a lot of gullible people desperate for someone to worship as a saint. Rashford and his PR team saw an opportunity to raise his profile, use Man United to build is brand(because he wouldn't be doing this shit if he played for Wolves) and give him a David Beckham like status and an MBE for 3 days of work simply by exploiting the plight of poverty-stricken children to raise his own social media profile, and to attract lucrative sponsorship/endorsements deals for himself

These kind of narcissistic individuals often crave hero-worship and peer approval by promoting their own victimhood. Another way is to pass themselves off as 'virtuous' is by pretending to help others through promoting causes they know will bring them attention and virtue-signalling points they so desperately crave. In the case of rashford, it’s pretending to fill the bellies of hungry children when its really the tax payers funding it all. The fact is Marcus Rashford is nothing but an opportunist, using little kids for emotive value to garner sympathy and support to. I'd like to see how much money he has used out of his own pocket to support these causes instead of preaching and demanding others to do so.

There are people who tirelessly campaign for numerous worthy causes, fund raising for children in hospices, lobby local councillors and MP's, write letters, send e-mails to make changes to their area while working 9-5 jobs on minimum wage and are basically ignored. They don't post it all over social media for kudos

As for the guy saying I don't know Rashford so I'm making assumptions, I don't personally know Greenwood either, but I know he's a piece of shit and I'm not going to beat around the bush, because I'm tired of these egomaniacs at our club being protected to the point if you say something wrong about them or tell the truth, it's abuse.

This guy made Ole publicly grovel and apologise for daring to advise him to go easy on the things outside football. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. So you damn right I’m going to be making assumptions on his character and his so called love for the club while he's been down tooling on managers over the last 4-5 years. Last but not least we have him threatening a fan after they simply wanted an autograph with his kids out in the cold rain. This is not something I’m going to sit down and support. Any man/boy who threatens a father with violence, in front of their children is the lowest of the low in my book.

If this guy wasn't British, he would have been hounded out of the club like Martial. Martial was booed in his last appearance for us being going out on loan, all because he made it clear he wanted to leave. Rashford does even worse both on and off the pitch and instead gets flowers, love letters ,hugs and in depth documentary style psychoanalysis on why he's simply shit. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. When Rooney flirted with Man City, after he was dismayed with the direction the club was going in, he had people sent to his door to tell him what's what and questioning where his loyalties lie. Not that I condone it, but it's the different type of breed of fans who molly coddy and protect these players at all costs regardless of the lows they descend to, compared to the fans and manager in the past who held players accountable
Trash post.
It’s a good thing the world isn’t made up of people with an attitude like yours. We’d be fecked.
 
He’s nothing but a pretend to be do- gooder. It’s not about the children or making the world a better place, it’s about his profile, contract value and feeding into a messiah complex. The ugly truth is, Rashford does it all for self serving motives. It's not for the benefit of others, rather for the attention, adulation and kudos it brings to himself while getting to role play being a martyr and grievance-monger.

He is a character like that environmental activist Greta. Manipulated behind the scenes to be a political mouthpiece for SJWS to pull the heart strings for a lot of gullible people desperate for someone to worship as a saint. Rashford and his PR team saw an opportunity to raise his profile, use Man United to build is brand(because he wouldn't be doing this shit if he played for Wolves) and give him a David Beckham like status and an MBE for 3 days of work simply by exploiting the plight of poverty-stricken children to raise his own social media profile, and to attract lucrative sponsorship/endorsements deals for himself

These kind of narcissistic individuals often crave hero-worship and peer approval by promoting their own victimhood. Another way is to pass themselves off as 'virtuous' is by pretending to help others through promoting causes they know will bring them attention and virtue-signalling points they so desperately crave. In the case of rashford, it’s pretending to fill the bellies of hungry children when its really the tax payers funding it all. The fact is Marcus Rashford is nothing but an opportunist, using little kids for emotive value to garner sympathy and support to. I'd like to see how much money he has used out of his own pocket to support these causes instead of preaching and demanding others to do so.

There are people who tirelessly campaign for numerous worthy causes, fund raising for children in hospices, lobby local councillors and MP's, write letters, send e-mails to make changes to their area while working 9-5 jobs on minimum wage and are basically ignored. They don't post it all over social media for kudos

As for the guy saying I don't know Rashford so I'm making assumptions, I don't personally know Greenwood either, but I know he's a piece of shit and I'm not going to beat around the bush, because I'm tired of these egomaniacs at our club being protected to the point if you say something wrong about them or tell the truth, it's abuse.

This guy made Ole publicly grovel and apologise for daring to advise him to go easy on the things outside football. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. So you damn right I’m going to be making assumptions on his character and his so called love for the club while he's been down tooling on managers over the last 4-5 years. Last but not least we have him threatening a fan after they simply wanted an autograph with his kids out in the cold rain. This is not something I’m going to sit down and support. Any man/boy who threatens a father with violence, in front of their children is the lowest of the low in my book.

If this guy wasn't British, he would have been hounded out of the club like Martial. Martial was booed in his last appearance for us being going out on loan, all because he made it clear he wanted to leave. Rashford does even worse both on and off the pitch and instead gets flowers, love letters ,hugs and in depth documentary style psychoanalysis on why he's simply shit. This is also the same guy leaking that he has offers from Liverpool after we got knocked out of the CL. When Rooney flirted with Man City, after he was dismayed with the direction the club was going in, he had people sent to his door to tell him what's what and questioning where his loyalties lie. Not that I condone it, but it's the different type of breed of fans who molly coddy and protect these players at all costs regardless of the lows they descend to, compared to the fans and manager in the past who held players accountable
Oh God, here we go.
 
You believe Ragnick hasn't educated United about Pogba and Martial attitudes? Very naive, interesting Martial out on loan and stinking Sevilla up, and Pogbas had no further contract talks.......

But still some Bury their heads in the sand.

I say well done Ragnick on identifying the problems amongst the squad and addressing them. It's been needed for years.
Great that somebody else sees this, Rashford sulking, Shaw coming out in an interview not feeling loved but still needs a new contract. All this stems from there fact there is a manager there who isn't buying this crap. The board and the new manager will get a very interesting material to read about that squad after the season. Funny thing with Rashford is that if he wasn't at Utd his platform would be at least 10x smaller and no one would give a shit about his work, books ect.
 
The problem right here is that there's a bare minimum expectation of some effort even when the performance is lacking, but Rashford fails badly at that.

We literally can play him off the bench and he'll just stand around doing nothing. His attitude is appalling and he would have been binned off a long time ago if it weren't for his stupidly high wages.
But he tells us on twitter he is his own biggest critic :lol:
 
I don't see other players churning out books trying to milk the niche market for children to fill their bank accounts and no I don't see other players showing off their charity work on Instagram every time they do it, shoving it down our faces..

Where I come from, you do charity and help others without expecting praise or showing it off as then it becomes more about self promotion than it is selfless service. This guy is using charity and politics in order to give himself a greater sense of self importance and place himself above criticism. He's nothing but a narcissistic product/brand of social media star not a footballer. He may as well be a youtuber. The latest one is him wheeling out some little kid to get him to tell the world that rashford helped make him run miles and miles

He's the ultimate narcissist who has a similar entitlement mindset to greenwood. He thinks his charity work and advocacy should protect him from all criticism. That's why he sent his pr representives over to ex united players to beg them to go easy on him in the media. And thats why he acted like a thug against the fan who dared question his performance. The same fan who no doubt contributes to his overinflated wage and we have his fanclub calling it abuse. Well we may as well get rid of this whole entire forum and all hand ourselves in to the police for online abuse, if saying 'come on rashford, after that performance'' because I've heard far harsher criticisms on here a day to day basis.

As for giving this brat another chance under a new manager, This guy has already worked under 4 different managers and only one of them has he performed well under. World class managers like Mourinho got fed up of him and Martial and he used his pr to undermine Mourinho because he wasn't an automatic starter. Then he threw Ole under the bus even though he was the one who pandered to his ego the most and gave him the most game time. In the end Rashford couldn't accept that all the smoke that's been blown up his ass by desperate united fans who wanted to believe he was a generatioanl talent on par with the likes of Mbappe, isn't true.

The guy is toxic and he and his fanclub who puts players above the club need to understand that simply having pace, with no footballing iq isn't enough to justify a place in the squad let alone 250k per week. Macheda, David Bellion and Danny Wellbeck had pace and could run past players. It didn't stop them from being thrown in the scrap heap because they weren't fecking good enough and SAF didn't let sentimentality get in the way of where he wanted to take his team irrespective of a player being from the academy local lad bs.

If half of this shit surrounding his pathetic half assed performances where he can't even be bothered to run back, along with his extra curriculum activities (distracting his mind and focus away from football - which ole alluded to before having to bow down and apologise to the brat) was going on underneath SAF's watch, he'd have kicked a brick let alone a boot in this boy's face a long time ago before being shown the door out of the club, so he can play being Mahatma Gandhi and peace envoy nelson mandela/jk rowling some place else

Good post, I couldn't agree more.
 
I don't see other players churning out books trying to milk the niche market for children to fill their bank accounts and no I don't see other players showing off their charity work on Instagram every time they do it, shoving it down our faces..

Where I come from, you do charity and help others without expecting praise or showing it off as then it becomes more about self promotion than it is selfless service. This guy is using charity and politics in order to give himself a greater sense of self importance and place himself above criticism. He's nothing but a narcissistic product/brand of social media star not a footballer. He may as well be a youtuber. The latest one is him wheeling out some little kid to get him to tell the world that rashford helped make him run miles and miles

He's the ultimate narcissist who has a similar entitlement mindset to greenwood. He thinks his charity work and advocacy should protect him from all criticism. That's why he sent his pr representives over to ex united players to beg them to go easy on him in the media. And thats why he acted like a thug against the fan who dared question his performance. The same fan who no doubt contributes to his overinflated wage and we have his fanclub calling it abuse. Well we may as well get rid of this whole entire forum and all hand ourselves in to the police for online abuse, if saying 'come on rashford, after that performance'' because I've heard far harsher criticisms on here a day to day basis.

As for giving this brat another chance under a new manager, This guy has already worked under 4 different managers and only one of them has he performed well under. World class managers like Mourinho got fed up of him and Martial and he used his pr to undermine Mourinho because he wasn't an automatic starter. Then he threw Ole under the bus even though he was the one who pandered to his ego the most and gave him the most game time. In the end Rashford couldn't accept that all the smoke that's been blown up his ass by desperate united fans who wanted to believe he was a generatioanl talent on par with the likes of Mbappe, isn't true.

The guy is toxic and he and his fanclub who puts players above the club need to understand that simply having pace, with no footballing iq isn't enough to justify a place in the squad let alone 250k per week. Macheda, David Bellion and Danny Wellbeck had pace and could run past players. It didn't stop them from being thrown in the scrap heap because they weren't fecking good enough and SAF didn't let sentimentality get in the way of where he wanted to take his team irrespective of a player being from the academy local lad bs.

If half of this shit surrounding his pathetic half assed performances where he can't even be bothered to run back, along with his extra curriculum activities (distracting his mind and focus away from football - which ole alluded to before having to bow down and apologise to the brat) was going on underneath SAF's watch, he'd have kicked a brick let alone a boot in this boy's face a long time ago before being shown the door out of the club, so he can play being Mahatma Gandhi and peace envoy nelson mandela/jk rowling some place else
Well put.
 
I don't see other players churning out books trying to milk the niche market for children to fill their bank accounts and no I don't see other players showing off their charity work on Instagram every time they do it, shoving it down our faces..

Where I come from, you do charity and help others without expecting praise or showing it off as then it becomes more about self promotion than it is selfless service. This guy is using charity and politics in order to give himself a greater sense of self importance and place himself above criticism. He's nothing but a narcissistic product/brand of social media star not a footballer. He may as well be a youtuber. The latest one is him wheeling out some little kid to get him to tell the world that rashford helped make him run miles and miles

He's the ultimate narcissist who has a similar entitlement mindset to greenwood. He thinks his charity work and advocacy should protect him from all criticism. That's why he sent his pr representives over to ex united players to beg them to go easy on him in the media. And thats why he acted like a thug against the fan who dared question his performance. The same fan who no doubt contributes to his overinflated wage and we have his fanclub calling it abuse. Well we may as well get rid of this whole entire forum and all hand ourselves in to the police for online abuse, if saying 'come on rashford, after that performance'' because I've heard far harsher criticisms on here a day to day basis.

As for giving this brat another chance under a new manager, This guy has already worked under 4 different managers and only one of them has he performed well under. World class managers like Mourinho got fed up of him and Martial and he used his pr to undermine Mourinho because he wasn't an automatic starter. Then he threw Ole under the bus even though he was the one who pandered to his ego the most and gave him the most game time. In the end Rashford couldn't accept that all the smoke that's been blown up his ass by desperate united fans who wanted to believe he was a generatioanl talent on par with the likes of Mbappe, isn't true.

The guy is toxic and he and his fanclub who puts players above the club need to understand that simply having pace, with no footballing iq isn't enough to justify a place in the squad let alone 250k per week. Macheda, David Bellion and Danny Wellbeck had pace and could run past players. It didn't stop them from being thrown in the scrap heap because they weren't fecking good enough and SAF didn't let sentimentality get in the way of where he wanted to take his team irrespective of a player being from the academy local lad bs.

If half of this shit surrounding his pathetic half assed performances where he can't even be bothered to run back, along with his extra curriculum activities (distracting his mind and focus away from football - which ole alluded to before having to bow down and apologise to the brat) was going on underneath SAF's watch, he'd have kicked a brick let alone a boot in this boy's face a long time ago before being shown the door out of the club, so he can play being Mahatma Gandhi and peace envoy nelson mandela/jk rowling some place else
Good post
 
I'd like to think this forum would calm down a little if Rashford moved on but let's face it when that happens you'll all just transfer your overly intense energy onto Sancho instead.
 
I don't see other players churning out books trying to milk the niche market for children to fill their bank accounts and no I don't see other players showing off their charity work on Instagram every time they do it, shoving it down our faces..

Where I come from, you do charity and help others without expecting praise or showing it off as then it becomes more about self promotion than it is selfless service. This guy is using charity and politics in order to give himself a greater sense of self importance and place himself above criticism. He's nothing but a narcissistic product/brand of social media star not a footballer. He may as well be a youtuber. The latest one is him wheeling out some little kid to get him to tell the world that rashford helped make him run miles and miles

He's the ultimate narcissist who has a similar entitlement mindset to greenwood. He thinks his charity work and advocacy should protect him from all criticism. That's why he sent his pr representives over to ex united players to beg them to go easy on him in the media. And thats why he acted like a thug against the fan who dared question his performance. The same fan who no doubt contributes to his overinflated wage and we have his fanclub calling it abuse. Well we may as well get rid of this whole entire forum and all hand ourselves in to the police for online abuse, if saying 'come on rashford, after that performance'' because I've heard far harsher criticisms on here a day to day basis.

As for giving this brat another chance under a new manager, This guy has already worked under 4 different managers and only one of them has he performed well under. World class managers like Mourinho got fed up of him and Martial and he used his pr to undermine Mourinho because he wasn't an automatic starter. Then he threw Ole under the bus even though he was the one who pandered to his ego the most and gave him the most game time. In the end Rashford couldn't accept that all the smoke that's been blown up his ass by desperate united fans who wanted to believe he was a generatioanl talent on par with the likes of Mbappe, isn't true.

The guy is toxic and he and his fanclub who puts players above the club need to understand that simply having pace, with no footballing iq isn't enough to justify a place in the squad let alone 250k per week. Macheda, David Bellion and Danny Wellbeck had pace and could run past players. It didn't stop them from being thrown in the scrap heap because they weren't fecking good enough and SAF didn't let sentimentality get in the way of where he wanted to take his team irrespective of a player being from the academy local lad bs.

If half of this shit surrounding his pathetic half assed performances where he can't even be bothered to run back, along with his extra curriculum activities (distracting his mind and focus away from football - which ole alluded to before having to bow down and apologise to the brat) was going on underneath SAF's watch, he'd have kicked a brick let alone a boot in this boy's face a long time ago before being shown the door out of the club, so he can play being Mahatma Gandhi and peace envoy nelson mandela/jk rowling some place else

Feck me :lol:

Also why are Mandela and that twat Rowling lumped together here?
 
He’s nothing but a pretend to be do- gooder. It’s not about the children or making the world a better place, it’s about his profile, contract value and feeding into a messiah complex. The ugly truth is, Rashford does it all for self serving motives. It's not for the benefit of others, rather for the attention, adulation and kudos it brings to himself while getting to role play being a martyr and grievance-monger.

He is a character like that environmental activist Greta. Manipulated behind the scenes to be a political mouthpiece for SJWS to pull the heart strings for a lot of gullible people desperate for someone to worship as a saint. Rashford and his PR team saw an opportunity to raise his profile, use Man United to build is brand(because he wouldn't be doing this shit if he played for Wolves) and give him a David Beckham like status and an MBE for 3 days of work simply by exploiting the plight of poverty-stricken children to raise his own social media profile, and to attract lucrative sponsorship/endorsements deals for himself

These kind of narcissistic individuals often crave hero-worship and peer approval by promoting their own victimhood. Another way is to pass themselves off as 'virtuous' is by pretending to help others through promoting causes they know will bring them attention and virtue-signalling points they so desperately crave. In the case of rashford, it’s pretending to fill the bellies of hungry children when its really the tax payers funding it all. The fact is Marcus Rashford is nothing but an opportunist, using little kids for emotive value to garner sympathy and support to. I'd like to see how much money he has used out of his own pocket to support these causes instead of preaching and demanding others to do so.

There are people who tirelessly campaign for numerous worthy causes, fund raising for children in hospices, lobby local councillors and MP's, write letters, send e-mails to make changes to their area while working 9-5 jobs on minimum wage and are basically ignored. They don't post it all over social media for kudos

How utterly bizarre.

He used the platform he had to make a social change, his name and doing it publicly is the point. If he goes and has a private meeting with an MP he gets laughed out of the room, he used the pressure he was able to generate with his name to bring about positive change. It doesn't work if he does it quietly behind the scenes. When others campaign for change they use media avenues when they can get them for a reason because it widens the message and the potential support. Rashford started from a place of having that, you're saying he should purposefully avoiding using it? There's a difference between giving a donation to a cause and campaigning for social change, and if someone is doing the latter and they aren't using every opportunity to maximise visibility they aren't going to succeed.

Regarding the bolded part. So in one breath you're saying he shouldn't be posting it all over social media, in the next you're demanding receipts? Ha.

I'm tired of these egomaniacs at our club being protected to the point if you say something wrong about them or tell the truth, it's abuse.

Being critical of his performances and slating the person aren't really the same thing.

If this guy wasn't British, he would have been hounded out of the club like Martial. Martial was booed in his last appearance for us being going out on loan, all because he made it clear he wanted to leave. Rashford does even worse both on and off the pitch and instead gets flowers, love letters ,hugs and in depth documentary style psychoanalysis on why he's simply shit.

Criticising others for psychoanalysing whilst labelling him a narcissist and diagnosing him as having a Messiah complex is high grade bullshittery.
 
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I'd like to think this forum would calm down a little if Rashford moved on but let's face it when that happens you'll all just transfer your overly intense energy onto Sancho instead.

Not if he puts in good performances which is all we want really.
 
I think people bemoaning Rashford for his outside football work is crazy.

Yes it has put him further in the spotlight, but in a positive way.

On the pitch however, something is clear wrong and it isn't just him.

The club is in a very bad way from top to bottom and big changes are needed.

Poor performance, injury, lack of fitness (physically and mentally) have clearly turned a once promising player, into someone who needs a break, or a change in order to sustain a career of note.

Personally, if he left I'd be disappointed, because the club have ruined another player, however, I don't want players who don't want to wear the shirt with pride and effort, or those just taking the money for doing nothing.

The club is bigger than any player.
 
I think people bemoaning Rashford for his outside football work is crazy.

Yes it has put him further in the spotlight, but in a positive way.

On the pitch however, something is clear wrong and it isn't just him.

The club is in a very bad way from top to bottom and big changes are needed.

Poor performance, injury, lack of fitness (physically and mentally) have clearly turned a once promising player, into someone who needs a break, or a change in order to sustain a career of note.

Personally, if he left I'd be disappointed, because the club have ruined another player, however, I don't want players who don't want to wear the shirt with pride and effort, or those just taking the money for doing nothing.

The club is bigger than any player.

Who are the other plays the club have ruined?
 
"Marcus Rashford was the youngest of five siblings, who were looked after by their single mother Melani Maynard. The England international has previously detailed that his mother had to work multiple jobs to feed their family, sometimes skipping meals herself to ensure Rashford and his siblings ate. During his BBC Breakfast appearance, Rashford claimed that he remembers being hungry while growing up, but never complained because he knew that his mother was doing the best she could. The 23-year-old said, "If there was food on the table, there was food on the table. If there's not, I had friends who understood my situation and maybe it was possible for me to go to their house to get some food."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...star-struggled-for-food-during-childhood.html

I've said it before and il say it again - the worst thing about this club is its fans. Imagine the rest of his family being confused when Rashford lies about his family being poor and hungry growing up :lol:

Liverpool fans are much much better people with a relation to football.