Can anyone name any world class coaches at Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc?
Moyes to appoint Neville, Round and others
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
Nobody was ever going to have the same level of experiece as Fergie.
Whats this got to do with Jose?
I could name some world class bellends.
Clarke, Wilkins, Platt, Bould have all been or have become coaches at these clubs mainly due to their experience of playing in the England just like Phil Neville.
take your mourinho love-in and feck off to a Chelsea forum
That's not difficult though!
It's bizarre looking at all this moaning. Moyes was surely gonna bring some of his staff in. Not sure why people expected anything different.
Steve Round sounds like a name I could get angry at when things arn't going well. I feel this appointment will work well.
As a like-for-like replacement, as far as I can tell due to my superior knowledge of Everton's coaching staff, Steve Round is the perfect replacement for Mike Phelan.
Both of them do feck all. On the plus side, one of them is highly rated on FM while the other wears shorts. I'll let you do the math.
Both of them do feck all. On the plus side, one of them is highly rated on FM while the other wears shorts. I'll let you do the math.
From FM or IRL?
I feel the problem is the posters who actually know something about it (from biographies I guess) get drowned out by the babble.
Low blow, one point deducted.
Chelsea has Eva Carneiro, that has to count for something.
In boxing yes, in pornos it is clearly a point gained if you go below the belt.
I've looked all over for Steve Round's autobiography, but those things must have flown off the shelves as everywhere seems to have sold out!
You wouldn't want his autobiography, he's obviously going to talk himself up.
Real clued in posters get every autobiography of every player/coach he's ever worked with so they can get an unbiased view.
Are people not allowed to express concern about their lack of CL experience for example? Why can nobody question any decision Moyes makes all on a sudden? It's odd. It doesn't mean they're against him.
So we didn't buy Bilbao or Dortmund, we bought Everton!
Who knows how it will work out but the notion that fans should have zero concerns about transplanting Everton's staff to United is ridiculous, I'm not seeing any meltdowns, just people saying they aren't keen on the idea. It'll be interesting to see how well those throwing names around and acting like keyboard warriors act if things go tits up.
Some of the usual suspects just like to enter certain threads and attempt to dismiss the ongoing discussion with a few jaded platitudes or extreme gereralisations, and the latter not actually reflecting the nature of the debate in many cases.
An individual accuses another of being a moron whilst behaving like the dolt of the day in the process.
My concern like everyone was Ferguson retiring. It’s been a concern for many years.
I doubt anyone is sure of what will happen, but best thing is not to go hysterical now when he hasn’t even started his job.
If it all goes tits up everyone can go nuts.
FFS.
You over sensitive bunch of pussies. No-one is saying people can't question Moyes. Not at all. What people are laughing at is the OTT reactions and blaming Moyes for things out of his control or assuming these coaches are shit when they know nothing about them.
I'll make this into something more meaningful
Order of known:
Scholes (does this really count just coming out of retirement! 7/10)
Owen (continued like the rest of his latter career - injured, but great 8.5/10)
Van Persie (9/10 signing, easy buy)
Young (has been a 6-6.5/10 signing!
Berbatov (Looked 9/10 at Spurs, reached 8/10 in one season at United, otherwise about 6.5-7)
Valencia (has varied from 9/10 to 6/10 in performances)
Kagawa (Known for his German exploits 7.5/10 signing potential 9/10)
De Gea (Known for his UEFA cup exploits 9/10 signing)
I'd call that 8/24 very well to worthy of knowing signings
Jones (still known for work at Blackburn, but not exactly commonly known 7/10 signing, 9/10 potential)
Powell (was lots of talk about him being signed from multiple teams before United, too early to assess)
Smalling (glimpses at Fulham, but hardly well known)
3/24 conceivably known
Well rated youngsters and thus known by those who dig a bit deeper:
Ljajic, Pogba, Hernandez, Buttner, Henriquez, Lindegaard
Dig a lot deeper!
De Leat, Tosic, Diouf, Obertan, Bebe, Virmijl, Goss
Nobody knew who Hernandez was at all.
Simply questioning is fair enough,to an extent, I suppose. It's the airing of strong views in opposition that doesn't make any sense. As supporters we're never going to know very much about what goes on behind the scenes at a football club; David Moyes is infinitely more clued up about this than all of ourselves put together can ever dream of being. Why then anyone on the caf can feel they're justified in labeling the manager's decisions as being 'awful', 'bizarre', 'madness' etc. is bewildering to be honest. Can't you just accept your own absolute ignorance in these matters, acknowledge Moyes' expertise and come to terms with the changes occurring at the club? What makes anyone on here think they know better than David Moyes himself who best to be his assistant and head coach is anyone's guess. Nobody said you can't question any decision he makes as manager of our club, but at least make an attempt to pick a decision you have the slightest chance of knowing the first thing about beforere relentlessly banging on about how little sense it all makes to you.
well said, cider. bravo.
Bloody hell. What am i reading. Considering we know frig all about back room staff everyone's an expert. I see people moaning about Phil Neville, considering Solskjaer got appoint reserve team manager and won the league first time round i wouldn't make much of the experience thing. Lets be honest too for the last 2years this hasn't been vintiage United football so maybe it needs change.
*check out Phil Neville's views on being a coach, its somewhere on YouTube and its a good watch*
*check out Phil Neville's views on being a coach, its somewhere on YouTube and its a good watch*
When did we sign Matt Goss?
Last Summer I believe.
As of late Cider has been bang on form.
Hell of a first sentence, that.
Can you revise and re-post because perhaps your thoughts may be very interesting? However, quite frankly, I am unable to establish one way or another, because your post was poorly written.
This is not a joke, by the way...
You spin me right round baby, steve round.
Can you revise and re-post because perhaps your thoughts may be very interesting? However, quite frankly, I am unable to establish one way or another, because your post was poorly written.
This is not a joke, by the way...
Don't you dare revise it, Nick.
It's a cracker!
Indeed, a first team coach who learned the game under Fergie, can't be a bad thing can it?
I haven't a notion how how good most coaches actually are, but I know from reading interviews with players and from pieces that have been written about United that Rene was a very highly rated coach. It's a shame he has left.
As for the replacements, obviously it would have been preferable if we'd poached some ridiculously talented, innovative, experienced, wonder-coach, but something tells me there's not too many of them around. If these are the guys that Moyes wants then that's fine, we've gotta trust him on this kind of thing. Do any of us actually have any kind of clue as to how good these guys are?
As for the replacements, obviously it would have been preferable if we'd poached some ridiculously talented, innovative, experienced, wonder-coach, but something tells me there's not too many of them around. If these are the guys that Moyes wants then that's fine, we've gotta trust him on this kind of thing. Do any of us actually have any kind of clue as to how good these guys are?
Losing Rene and appointing an inexperienced first team coach sounds like a disaster even if it is P.Neville. Without sounding like a cnut it's not good to lose all these winners from the backroom staff and appointing people who are used to coaching at a completely different level. I understand the Assistant manager position but the rest is starting to look quite bizarre.
I am stricken with mortification at this moment.
I clearly have too many tabs on the go for that obviously wasn't meant to have been posted yet.
Those who know me could assure you that my speech isn't riddled with typos and a complete lack of grammar. Although if i had to talk through a keyboard i'd clearly be fecked. lol Except i suppose that is what a forum actually is right *sigh* i'm logging off for the month.
I clearly have too many tabs on the go for that obviously wasn't meant to have been posted yet.
Those who know me could assure you that my speech isn't riddled with typos and a complete lack of grammar. Although if i had to talk through a keyboard i'd clearly be fecked. lol Except i suppose that is what a forum actually is right *sigh* i'm logging off for the month.
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Is this based on FM or something? Otherwise surely Diouf and Lindegaard belong in the same bracket as players who did well in the Norwegian league and not a lot more than that. Wellknown to noggies, unknown to everyone else.
And, more to the point, when, oh when, will he be famous?
I'm asking because I, for one, can't answer, can't answer that.